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I have the same queries too and I heard about this but it seems difficult to get this information. One person told me to head to Brazil under a tourist visa and together with my boyfriend to go and apply for a fiance visa.

If i get any info I will pop you a note.. I'm hoping to be there soon.

Hi Isabelle,

you should post the french version of your message on the French version of this forum

hi

Would really love some info on this subjecy also!! Irish and have a brasilian girlfriend and planning to move there in September. I have been looking at a work visa - which is hard to get and an investment visa - which i dont have that sort of money!! The 3rd is to get maried but i dont want to get married just to get a visa!!

Any help would be much appreciated

Conor

You better enter brazil as a tourist and then get married. Im sorry to tell you this, but there is no way you can have a "girlfriend" visa. Just as it does not exist in France or in the US, it does not exist in Brazil either. the visa you refer to is in place for same-sex-marriage or partnership rights, as in it gives options to same sex couples who in many areas are not legally allowed to get married. you have the legal right to get married, which is virtually what this visa is an alternative for.

The immigration process in Brazil is very stringent and many are surprised to hear that. The only visa you can enter on (as in the Brazilian consulate gives it to you before you enter) based on family is called the family reunion visa, which you do not qualify for. There is no way around this.

I married one year ago so i could get my permanent residency. i am only 24, marriage in this form is a legal route to be with the person you want to be with. it has to be that important to you. WE ALL have to go through this. all of my expat friends (there are many who are in the same situation whether from the US, Ireland, India, Canada, it's all the same) had to make the choice to get married, male or female immigrant. you legally marry, you dont have to do a wedding. but you cannot get a green card as a girlfriend, the Policia Federal would never allow it, particularly since you are together only 2 years and have the legal rights to marry.

your only option is to come as a tourist. stay 180 days, then leave 90 days, then stay 180 days, then leave 90 and repeat. You can do this but you cannot open a bank account and get a driver's license as a tourist.

if you eventually are sponsored for a work visa, then that can turn into residency.

For now, enter on a tourist visa and make your decision after that.

If you think you still fall through a loophole, your only other option is to speak to an international immigration attorney, preferrably one in Brazil.

good luck to you all, but my best advice is to just get married. it's a piece of paper, think of it as that. it is the quickest way. one year after marriage you will have your permanent resident card and all the rights it carries. send me a message if you have any questions about brazilian marriage process and federal police applications after that

Wait -- don't get married just yet.  Federal law in Brazil inclludes a visa option for those in a "Stable Union" - gay or straight.  You do not need to be married, you just have to prove you are in a stable union (and that your Brazilian partner is prepared to document his/her ability to support you financially in the short run).  When I first learned of this law the definition of "Stable" was five years, but since then I have heard whispers that it has been reduced to two years -- but I cannot confirm that.

Check out this link for more (if dated) info:

This is not a difficult process, if you can meet the qualifications.

In my case (I am French) to get a companion visa, I had to get many documents proving that we swere together since at least 2 years . Need people that can testify, proof of clean criminal records, the brasilian partner has to have a job to be able to sustain the couple etc.....
I needed to get an official document from the French autorities that certify our union. When we were living in Dublin we did a 'Certificat de concubinage' - it s an attestation that says that we were living together ! It was not enough !

Then when you have all theses papers, you need to send everything to Brasilia. The department in charge of that, just met once a month to study these kind of cases - the delay to get a visa if you did everything right is about 6 months (your tourism visa would have expired til then)

Yes marriage is the only solution !

Hi Isabelle,

I think the easiest way for you is to get a PACS (you can do it even in the French embassy here). It is them recognised as a proof of stable union and you don't need to prove that you have lived together for the last 2 years, you won't get a visit from authorities to prove that you live together (like they do with the Uniao Estavel). A PACS isn't really that difficult to get though there is a bit of paperwork and translations to be done too but I think that's the easiest way to get to a family reunion visa. I have just sent my visa application last week so I ll let you know how it goes! Good luck:)!

- May 2009, I jst had my visa approved, based on our PACS and the fact as well that I have a source of income (not even fix, but that seemed to work) - if your partner has one source of income it's enough as well. We didn't get a visit from the PF to check that we are living together - and anyway I imagine that would be fine in all cases. That's the + with the PACS, in terms of visa it sort of gives you the same rights as a married couple, only you don't have the duties of it. Paperwork is heavy so be ready, but if you take enough time and triple check that all you provide is right, there is no reason why you wouldn't get your visa/

YEs, please, let us know if the PACS works, i m also french, arriving in RIO in july, and i plan to do the same with my brazilian girlfriend.

Merci

Hi Romao!

Welcome to the forum

Armand

Hi Isabelle,

First of all, you need to check out the website for Consulado-Geral do Brasil em Paris, there are probably several in France, but I don't know which one would be closest to you so I would guess it best to check on Google to find others. They have all the current information regarding visa requirements.

The simplest process is to come to Brazil on a Tourist Visa, that permits a stay of 3 months which can be extended by an additional 3 month period at the headquarters of the Federal Police nearest your residence. Once here you can apply for permanency based on União Estável (Stable Union)provided that you can prove you and your boyfriend ACTUALLY are living together in a conjugal relationship (not always so easy to do). It is also easier if you have also been living together in Ireland and have some documentary proof to show the realtionship has lasted over a period of time. None of the visa classifications apply if it is just a "girlfriend/boyfriend" relationship... there is no "buddy" visa anywhere in the world. You MUST be living in a Common-Law relationship or what is also known as "equivalent to married".

The process for any type of Permanent Visa is extremely time consuming, takes forever and full of red tape... Brazilians invented RED TAPE. You can count on waiting a long time for a visa based on a stable relationship, you must live together during all that time and the Federal Police will check that out very closely, talking to neighbors and making a surprise visit to your residence to see for themselves.

Even getting married, with all the red tape involved in that doesn't make the permanency process any easier. Married, you will be permitted to remain in the country legally while the process drags on, but it can take years.

Whatever you choose, GOOD LUCK

thanks a lot for your advices.
I can t believe that it s so complicate to get a legal situation here when you see the number of people that succeed to stay and work in that country illegaly !!!

I went back to France in order to get a student visa. Now I have the right to stay longer in Brasil. It will give me the time to find a way to get that permanent visa.

I think that it s not luck that I need but a miracle !!!!

again, thanks a lot